tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post7710573999362401691..comments2023-10-11T04:25:44.384-06:00Comments on Bigelow's Rameumptom: Letter to President PackerChristopher Bigelowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01417741940958662788noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-6877949085311336492010-10-16T18:00:50.768-06:002010-10-16T18:00:50.768-06:00If we believed so much in "free agency" ...If we believed so much in "free agency" by rejecting Satan's Plan and pledged ourselves to building temples dedicated to the exhalation of the family through celestial marriage, why do we really care about civil marriage? Canada and the various US states who have taken a more libertarian approach haven't gone to hell in a hand basket. <br /><br />Bro. Packer and others are welcomed to their views on homosexuality. Having read Bishop David Eccles-Hardy's letter some years ago and pondered it prayerfully, I have to state emphatically that I no longer share that view. I know our religion worships conformity but on this issue, it hasn't be conformed in many years. Still, my only objection is the near endorsement of baring those different from us equal protection under the law. What a dangerous precedence that sets. Having been victimized by this very issue in our early days, you would think we wouldn't be so jolly about doing it to someone else.<br /><br />The Lord brought up this land for a special purpose. Only in a climate of liberty and freedom could the gospel be restored. Now that it is, are we going to turn our backs on those very things that made it all possible? Live and let live. Allow them the dignity we take for granted. Truth and righteousness has nothing to fear. Just look at the mess in the middle east. That's what happens when you try to legislate morality.The Growing Chorusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-29706257577344795842010-10-12T22:08:33.943-06:002010-10-12T22:08:33.943-06:00I've only met you once, so I can't tell if...I've only met you once, so I can't tell if this is satire or not. If it is, it's quite brilliant. If it isn't, then it is still brilliant, but in a completely different way.the narratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774503436545764912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-23702753326422063792010-10-10T20:31:28.288-06:002010-10-10T20:31:28.288-06:00Yeah, I can't tell either.Yeah, I can't tell either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05877346950463934048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-17898586457024680882010-10-10T10:35:45.428-06:002010-10-10T10:35:45.428-06:00Whether intended or not, this is a great twist on ...Whether intended or not, this is a great twist on Poe's law.Karinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-53261992704044545312010-10-09T10:35:54.899-06:002010-10-09T10:35:54.899-06:00Chino, you're so handsome and charming. Maybe ...Chino, you're so handsome and charming. Maybe you could even seduce Pres. Packer to the gay side! It's never too late to change.Christopher Bigelowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417741940958662788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-54025871772145137292010-10-09T06:12:34.623-06:002010-10-09T06:12:34.623-06:00"I felt so relieved."
Nothing compared ..."I felt so relieved."<br /><br />Nothing compared to the relief you'd probably feel if you'd just come out of the closet already, Chris. <br /><br />Good grief. No straight man would devote himself so heartily to the task you've assigned yourself.Chino Blancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17089075247725625711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-14832684710410840062010-10-08T12:59:04.549-06:002010-10-08T12:59:04.549-06:00Thanks, Alan, fascinating on all counts. I've ...Thanks, Alan, fascinating on all counts. I've saved this comment to draw upon later.Christopher Bigelowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417741940958662788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11513909.post-36526816243565802442010-10-07T12:25:32.193-06:002010-10-07T12:25:32.193-06:00According to Nibley, there is a subtle reference t...According to Nibley, there is a subtle reference to homosexuality in the description of the anti-christ Korihor (Alma 30:18) And thus he did preach unto them, leading away the hearts of many, causing them to lift up their heads in their wickedness, yea, leading away many women, and also many men, to commit whoredoms...<br />Nibley also mused that the time of Alma was one of great sexual perversion, because of Isabel and her commune that enticed his son Corianton. Nibley framed the Alma injunction against Corianton that that such things are next to murder to be referring to these practices, not to two youngsters in love that can't control themselves. I think you can find these comments in his BofM class transcripts. <br /><br />But that is not what I wanted to write about--I wanted to say that I listened to Elder Packer's talk online yesterday and transcribed the words, "In the righteous exercise of the Power as in nothing else, we can come close to our Father in Heaven. The Power is not an incidental part of the plan of salvation, it is the key, the very key. When we use this Power, we forever determine what we will become." Forgive me if I did not transcribe exactly, but I think I caught the gist of it. <br />This is heady doctrine but deeply Mormon. I have often remarked that the Creator seemed to give humans an extra abundance of sexual desire, and my only explanation is that he wanted to see what we would do with it. How will we spend it. Elder Packer concisely said it will determine forever who we will become. <br />Like you, others have commented that they feel a time of persecution coming. Perhaps this is why this last conference taught so much about seeking the Holy Spirit. I have wondered if it will center on the LDS stand on marriage, homosexuality, and family. Since you've been reading The Coming Calamity (shameless self promotion--buy it a greenjacketbooks.com) you can start to understand the tremendous demographic problems created by single parents, abortion, and, in general, the decline of marriage. These social ills are becoming economic ills, and may heighten persecution in the coming years. <br />In short, bravo for your stand. <br />Alan MitchellAlan Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13729640784729210943noreply@blogger.com